I\u2019ve mentioned many times that this blog is written just for me (and Lois) to help me\/us remember what incredibly rich and rewarding lives we lead, knowing (from first-hand experience) how quickly memory can fade. That we also end up helping spread the word about many of the musicians that we love is a bonus, but it\u2019s not the purpose.<\/p>\n
While I\u2019ve tried to be more positive than not in my musical posts, finding the good things to say, I\u2019ve taken my shots when appropriate (this is the last time that I\u2019ll repeat in this post: in my opinion<\/strong>). This won\u2019t be one of those posts. I have no interest in being mean for the sake of being mean. I don\u2019t need to rant just to get it off my chest. I want to mark this moment, and our feelings, so that we remember it (especially if it causes adjustments in our future behavior!). I have no illusion that it will change anyone\u2019s behavior (other than possibly ours!).<\/p>\n I don\u2019t believe that I\u2019m a particularly na\u00efve person (although that statement might actually prove how na\u00efve I really am). I will say things below that will make me look extremely na\u00efve, so be it. Rather than na\u00efve, I believe I am ignorant of many things in the world (but aware of my ignorance in most cases). Specifically, I know that I have close to zero knowledge about the Music Industry. In fact, many things that seem obvious\/intuitive to me about the music business end up being wrong when someone explains them to me.<\/p>\n I am not a music critic. Aside from knowing nothing about the music business, I know very little about music theory. I only know what I like, and on occasion, can articulate why I like it. People correct me here often enough not just on technical points, but when I misidentify someone on stage. I correct it as quickly as I can. I want to be accurate with facts, but I am not trying to review<\/em> shows in the classical sense.<\/p>\n My final caveat before jumping in: we love music<\/strong>, live and recorded. We love many of the musicians we\u2019ve come to know personally, both as artists and as people. I understand that some of the people I will mention in this post have equally rabid fans and loved ones, who will feel compelled to jump to their defense and call me an idiot, a hater and likely worse.<\/p>\n I get that there are a wide variety of tastes out there. I get that many people scratch their heads (or laugh) at the music that I think is amazing. This isn\u2019t about specific musical taste (though some of the points will come off that way). My apologies in advance for offending anyone specifically. I\u2019m trying to make some generic points, but I feel compelled to give some recent specific examples in making them.<\/p>\n Up until recently, I\u2019ve posted about every single show<\/strong> we\u2019ve attended, no exceptions. Even when I railed about a particular show<\/a>, I tried to present a lot of positive things as well (at least why we chose to go, if I couldn\u2019t find anything else nice to say). Needless to say, it led to a few venomous comments. I was impressed that we were able to engage in a meaningful dialog in most cases and come to a better understanding of each other\u2019s positions. I hope that if this post starts off with hostile comments, that we can use it to better understand each other in the end as well.<\/p>\n In March, a musician wrote to me out of the clear blue to tell me that he read my blog about someone he had performed with at another time. He was letting me know that he had a show scheduled in NYC in April, inviting me to attend if I could. I asked the person he performed with if he thought I would like his music and he said I would. Lois and I made the effort to attend.<\/p>\n After the show, I had a hard time thinking of anything particularly nice to say. I also didn\u2019t have anything negative to say that had a point to it. I just didn\u2019t enjoy the set. It was simple. I wasn\u2019t even annoyed that this artist was bold enough to market to a single person, that part still impressed me. It was the first time I didn\u2019t write a post about a show we attended. If I didn\u2019t mention it here, it\u2019s easy to believe that at some point, we\u2019ll forget we ever even attended\u2026<\/p>\n I felt badly afterward that I edited myself. Other than writing a post to mark the occasion, and saying that I didn\u2019t enjoy the set, I was too conscious of not wanting to hurt that artist\u2019s feelings. Consider my statement above about not being a music critic. I didn\u2019t feel the need to warn<\/em> people to avoid this person\u2019s shows. Even accounting for the fact that he has a lot of fans, the people that regularly read this blog might have more similar tastes to mine and want me to say who I don\u2019t like, as much as who I do.<\/p>\n Last weekend it happened again. Someone reached out to me in an email, inviting me to her show this past Tuesday. It was one of the best notes I\u2019ve read, completely professional and to the point. She told me why I should come (if I was available) in a very concise way. We bought tickets and attended the show.<\/p>\n Afterward, I had a ton of negative things to say. This time, many even (potentially) had a point. And yet, for only the second time, I decided not to blog. I felt badly again. I was compromising the purpose of this blog for the sake of sparing people\u2019s feelings. That sounds noble, but it\u2019s also a bit of a copout. Given how long-winded I am, the amount of effort that goes into each and every post is overwhelming (at least I have the time to do it). I was somewhat relieved that I had a rationalization for avoiding the effort, especially for a show I didn\u2019t enjoy.<\/p>\n So, why am I writing now and mentioning both of those shows? Last night was the straw that broke the proverbial camel\u2019s back. We walked out of another totally unsatisfying show (that\u2019s being kind) and our first instinct was to skip another blog again. Three times in three weeks? I felt that I at least had to say what it was that was making me not blog. Depending on how I feel after this post is out and see what kind of reactions it gets (if any!), I\u2019ll decide how to deal with these types of shows in the future (they will happen, it\u2019s inevitable given how often we attend live music).<\/p>\n Let\u2019s start with the first post I skipped. The show wasn\u2019t awful, it was just a waste of our time. But, it struck me deeply. This person drove from out of state to play this show. He had another band member with him. He had a small entourage (photographer friend, merch seller, etc.). Where did they play? A place we had never been to before: The National Underground<\/a>. I think there are two rooms there. This show took place in the bar area, on the street level.<\/p>\n It was a small crowd. The room couldn\u2019t handle a large crowd anyway, so my point isn\u2019t that it wasn\u2019t well attended. They didn\u2019t pass around a tip jar either. So, it seemed to me that this person drove to NYC for the chance to pick up a handful of fans (whatever that means), and to possibly sell a little merch. There\u2019s no way it could have covered the gas and tolls under the best of circumstances. If it was an extra stop along a tour, it\u2019s a little easier to understand. Otherwise, I found myself wondering why does he bother?<\/p>\n But, perhaps the more burning question (which only became clearer to me after last night\u2019s show), why did the venue book him? Is it so hard to find acts that can do a better job? In particular local acts who have at least a modest following who could bring business to the bar? Something felt broken to me about how these places get their lineups.<\/p>\n On to this past Tuesday. I have no need to try to hurt this specific artist\u2019s feelings, so I won\u2019t mention her by name. I also won\u2019t mention the venue, because then it would be trivial to figure out which show we attended.<\/p>\n One of the things that she promoted to me in her email was interesting. She wanted to do something different in the indie scene. She intended to have all of her backup singers from her set perform individually in the round, as the opening set. I liked the idea. It\u2019s not the only reason we attended, but it was a selling point. We love when artists highlight their band (including backup vocalists, etc.). This seemed a particularly good way to do it.<\/p>\n Guess what, that\u2019s not what happened. There was no in the round<\/em> at all. There were three opening acts (very traditional), each performing exactly five songs. Two of the acts were indeed part of her backup singers. The third wasn\u2019t. One of her backup vocalists was ill. This person filled in for the ill person\u2019s opening act, but a different person filled in for the ill person in the backup singers, even though the fill-in for the backups is quite a performer in her own right (we know, we\u2019ve seen her multiple times).<\/p>\n OK, not the end of the world, just not as billed. But, while the large-ish room was reasonably empty for the openers, the people that were there did a helluva job sounding like 1,000 people screaming at the top of their lungs. My heart cried out for the people on stage who could barely be heard even though they were amplified. I know, it happens (you\u2019re saying). Yes, but this was supposed to be different.<\/p>\n If the headliner had meant what she wrote to me, she would have come out before the openers, explained what she was trying to accomplish (presumably, to highlight the amazing people she had chosen to back her up vocally), and asked her friends and fans to join her in enjoying some talent that they otherwise might not discover.<\/p>\n Nope, she just threw them to the wolves. Wolves that were there presumably because they have some connection (musically or personally) to her.<\/p>\n OK, so we\u2019ve seen rude crowds before (perhaps not this bad), we knew we\u2019d survive. Surely, the headliner was going to floor us. Bzzzt, nope again. There were highlights, to be sure, but they did not include the headliner.<\/p>\n Her band was really good. The drummer is amazing (we\u2019ve seen him before), the lead guitarist was terrific on a number of leads (in particular the closing number). It turns out we\u2019ve seen him once before supporting a solo artist and we were both blown away by him then as well! Then there\u2019s the bass player. We saw him once before too, in one of the best sets we\u2019ve ever experienced (OK, more me than Lois, as the style of music is more to my taste). At least, after the show, I got to tell the drummer and bassist about that magical set (they were both part of it). I can\u2019t name them here, because again, I don\u2019t want to make it too easy to figure out the name of the headliner.<\/p>\n All of the backup singers (five in total) had excellent voices. There was a string quintet on stage as well. They were all good too. While I wouldn\u2019t tell you their names either, we were both annoyed that the headliner introduced her band by their full names, but the backup singers and quintet were introduced by first names only (so I don\u2019t even know the names of the quintet players even if I wanted to promote them).<\/p>\n So what, we didn\u2019t care for her music. So what, we didn\u2019t care for the fact that she slighted 10 of the people on stage with her assuming people could try and figure out their last names on their own. So what that she didn\u2019t do anything to help out the openers with her<\/em> crowd. Is there anything else that annoyed us? Yes.<\/p>\n Her crowd<\/em> was just as rude to her as they were to the openers, only in a different way. First, while it filled in more for her set, it was still not a well attended show (by any measure). She booked too large a room for her following. Her friends (I feel safe in calling them that, rather than her fans, as you\u2019ll hopefully agree) came a bit closer to the stage (most were hanging near the bar when the openers were playing).<\/p>\n Between songs, they cat-called to her, yelling her name every few seconds, whistling, basically calling attention to themselves in as loud a manner as they could. The minute she started playing a song, most turned their backs to her and started talking to each other at the top of their lungs. I would have been more annoyed if the songs were better, but instead, it provided a whole different level of entertainment watching them outdo each other in currying favor between songs, while ignoring each song as judiciously as they could. See why I call them friends rather than fans?<\/p>\n So, on to last night. Here, I\u2019m going to name names, at least some of them, because I have enough good things to say about them in general (not necessarily regarding last night) and because they have real fans (many of them) so there\u2019s nothing I can say to really hurt their careers (which is the last thing I want to do to any<\/strong> aspiring artist).<\/p>\n I\u2019ve heard about The Click Five<\/a> many times, but had never seen them, nor really heard any of their music. I\u2019ve seen the lead singer Kyle Patrick<\/a> a couple of times, and was impressed each time. I\u2019ve seen the bass player Ethan Mentzer as well and he\u2019s terrific too. We are friendly with many of their musician friends, all of whom respect The Click Five tremendously.<\/p>\n For icing on the cake, one of the openers was Jesse Ruben<\/a>. I\u2019ve seen a full set of Jesse\u2019s at Rockwood and really enjoyed it. Lois missed that show, so I was particularly interested in last night\u2019s show because I thought she\u2019d really like Jesse. There were three other opening acts in addition to Jesse and the venue was new to us: Rebel NYC<\/a>.<\/p>\n The doors opened later than announced, and the line moved like molasses once they were opened. When we finally got inside we saw that the main room wasn\u2019t going to be a pleasant experience for watching the show (to our taste). A long, narrow room with the stage at one end of the long side. Speakers all over the room (it was going to be loud) and flashing\/strobing lights everywhere, with disco balls hanging from the ceiling (yes, multiple ones). There were a few benches\/booths along the sides, most already taken.<\/p>\n At the far end of the room (opposite the stage) was a lounge area with leather couches. Since we knew we had at least a three-hour wait until The Click Five would come out, we decided to forego standing the entire time and we sat on a couch along the back wall, facing the stage. The most positive thing I can say about the evening is that the couch was incredibly comfortable (though even that got tiresome in hour three\u2026).<\/p>\n While it\u2019s easy to look up the three openers from last night that I am not going to mention by name, I really mean it when I say that I\u2019m trying to make some generic points, but using specific examples to make them. In other words, I am not trying to put them down, as I\u2019m sure that they too have some very rabid fans.<\/p>\n First point, not enough fans of headliners make the effort to honestly check out openers. There are many openers I don\u2019t like either (last night qualifies), but I give them every single chance to win me over, until their set is over. I don\u2019t use it as an excuse to make their job harder, just because I\u2019m not enjoying it. Ultimately, my point is that most of the rude people don\u2019t even give the opener\u2019s 10-seconds of listening, so it\u2019s not that they don\u2019t like it, they don\u2019t care enough to find out. In other words, not music lovers at all, just people who want to be part of the scene<\/em>.<\/p>\n When the first band hit the stage, there were very few people in the audience. Part of that was due to how slowly the line was moving to be let in to begin with, coupled with the doors opening late. Still, that small crowd managed to be so loud, in the face of a blaringingly loud<\/strong> rock band, that it was an incredible thing to witness. Granted, we were as far away from the stage as you could be (and still be in sight of it), so we were closer to the noise-making than people standing next to the stage. Unfortunately, there were very few people next to the stage.<\/p>\n The next band had more members in it. While I didn\u2019t enjoy their set either, their lead guitarist was excellent and the drummer was incredible. Here\u2019s what amazed me though. Somehow, the crowd settled down for them. There was noise, to be sure, but there were enough fans of this band to have entire pockets of people actually paying attention. I was getting hopeful.<\/p>\n Then the next act came on (acoustic). I was particularly interested to see if the settling down would continue further given that this would be harder to hear with any noise. It also seemed that this person was better known. Not only did it get noisy again, it was way worse than before. It felt like there wasn\u2019t a single quiet person in the place (of course that isn\u2019t true, as Lois and I tried to listen as intently as we could).<\/p>\n To be fair (to the crowd, and to be honest with myself), I thought this person (solo for a few songs, then accompanied by one then two people at the end) was awful. The person who sang harmony with him didn\u2019t hit a single note (really!). I am a sucker for harmony and this wasn\u2019t it.<\/p>\n OK, I\u2019ll circle back to my real<\/strong> problem with the openers in my summary. At least, the two acts I really came for were about to hit the stage, Jesse Ruben followed by The Click Five!<\/p>\n So, three bands performed without any technical glitches. Jesse hits the stage solo, with just an acoustic guitar, and they can\u2019t get him set up. He was on the stage for over five minutes, then he left. He didn\u2019t return for nearly fifteen minutes and when he did, they still couldn\u2019t get his sound out (to his satisfaction). It took another 10 minutes. In other words, it took over 30 minutes for him to start his set after<\/strong> the intermission from the set before. A long night just got way longer than it needed to be. I have no idea why, I\u2019m just complaining anyway\u2026<\/p>\n Here\u2019s where it gets weird (really Hadar?). The only place where people weren\u2019t<\/strong> making noise consistently throughout the night was in the lounge area where we were sitting (15-20 people in total). I found it strange because it\u2019s the most natural place to ignore the show. You\u2019re sitting as far from the stage as possible, in a square of couches, with a wall between you and the standing audience. You could almost pretend you were somewhere else and there was some background music being piped in (albeit deafeningly loud).<\/p>\n Why is that weird? Because the people in the lounge were clearly<\/strong> there for Jesse and\/or The Click Five. They hooted every time The Click Five were mentioned by an opening act. They hooted when Jesse came on the stage. The couple next to us were friends<\/strong> of Jesse (the guy was, and he introduced Jesse to his girlfriend during an earlier intermission).<\/p>\n When Jesse started playing, our lounge got loud<\/strong>. The group of eight girls that had chatted quietly started passing around phones (presumably sharing text\u2019s or FB updates) and screaming at the top of their lungs in response. The two women immediately in front of us who spent the entire night texting (quietly), started doing the same thing (well, not screaming, but talking much more loudly). They were so not into the show, they picked this moment to ask the staff to take their pictures!<\/p>\n His friend<\/strong> and girlfriend chatted throughout his set. Quietly, but they didn\u2019t pay attention to a single song, even though the girlfriend obviously hadn\u2019t heard him before. I was quite surprised that they didn\u2019t bother to get off the couch and move closer to the stage, for at least Jesse\u2019s set. Hey, at least they supported him by buying tickets, right? Right, unless they were on the list<\/em>\u2026<\/p>\n When Jesse started his last number, one of the eight girls screamed \u201cI love this song!\u201d. She then proceeded to scream to her friends throughout the rest of the song, not listening, nor allowing them to either.<\/p>\n So, from my perspective, how was Jesse\u2019s set? Musically, excellent. He played five good songs, sang well, accompanied himself on the guitar well. I can only hope that enough people recognized the vast difference in talent that Jesse displayed compared with the earlier acts (in particular the other acoustic one).<\/p>\n However, at his Rockwood show, I was also impressed with Jesse\u2019s ease on stage (his banter and connection with the crowd). Last night, he totally misread the nature of the crowd and the venue\/room. He tried to take control with similar banter, and I honestly believe that he lost more people every time he opened his mouth.<\/p>\n As a general point, that I\u2019ve mentioned once or twice before, performers, please, stop saying \u201cHow are you all doing tonight?\u201d. It\u2019s ridiculous<\/strong> on every level. In particular when you\u2019re the fourth act on stage and the first three asked the same question, with effectively zero<\/strong> reaction from the crowd. It makes you lazy and appear to have not paid any attention to what went on before you.<\/p>\n The one impressive thing was that when Jesse was done, it took significantly less time to get The Click Five going (all five playing more sophisticated instruments than Jesse did) than it took to get Jesse going. Whew.<\/p>\n We stayed for three songs and left when they started playing a cover as the fourth. We liked their sound (so our leaving was not<\/strong> a knock on The Click Five). We were wiped out and in no mood to enjoy music. It was crazy loud (we often feel that the sound guy cranks the headliner just to ensure that they are the loudest act of the show). It wasn\u2019t enjoyable, even though they are clearly wildly talented guys.<\/p>\n The noise level subsided a bit, which only made it all the more strange that the volume of the band got cranked to unreasonable levels. And their fans? Well, the eight girls who hooted every time their name was mentioned walked out during the second song. Huh? I know why we left, but them?<\/p>\n OK, I realize how crazy long the above is. I also realize it\u2019s specific, not only to our tastes, but to a very limited number of shows. Lois would argue that the points I\u2019m about to make now should have been made first, with the specifics supporting<\/em> them. Because I felt badly not covering those shows, I wanted\/needed to get the specifics off my chest, so they came first, even if that meant losing a lot of people before the generic points were even made\u2026<\/p>\n Who decides on the opening acts?<\/strong> I\u2019ve been told by bands that it varies. Sometimes the band is asked\/allowed\/required to choose the opener. Sometimes the venue dictates (or the promoter). Last night (and a number of times) the decisions made, make little sense.<\/p>\n Either the acts are mismatched to the headliner (then people like me wonder why the audience doesn\u2019t pay attention) or they simply stink (I know how subjective that is). In my heart of hearts, I can\u2019t imagine that top acts think highly of the acts that I think are horrible. Yet, they appear with them, names on the same marquee.<\/p>\n This industry is full<\/strong> of talent. Yet it\u2019s still hard to discover good music in the swamp of bad. I feel it\u2019s incumbent on both the venues (specifically the bookers) and the acts that have sway, to ensure that the openers at least have some reasonable talent. I know it\u2019s not going to happen, but there\u2019s so much good music that doesn\u2019t get heard, that it\u2019s a crime that awful groups get to play every night, at thousands of venues across the country.<\/p>\n Next, these shows aren\u2019t festivals<\/em>. Why did we need four openers last night? Is it to make people feel that they\u2019re getting their money\u2019s worth? If so, pick better acts. Even if that\u2019s true, most are coming for the headliner. One of the reasons this happens (on Tuesday and Thursday this week for the shows we attended), is that the headliner either can\u2019t, or isn\u2019t interested in being on stage for over an hour. The \u201ccan\u2019t\u201d part would be true if they have a very small catalog.<\/p>\n Venues need to decide if they are a disco or a concert hall (even if it\u2019s standing, with the intention of dancing\/swaying to the music). One of the single most ridiculous things we encounter (worst of all at Rebel NYC!) is lights that flash at the audience<\/strong>. Rebel is the worst, because in addition to normal floodlights of all colors flashing in our eyes (during the performance), they had strobe lights (so bright they could land planes in fog with them) that could easily set off seizures. It\u2019s crazy. We\u2019re trying to watch the band on stage, and we\u2019re blinded in the process. I simply can\u2019t imagine the purpose, other than to enhance a drug high<\/em>!<\/p>\n There are many more bars\/clubs\/discos in the country than music venues. This is even more true of paid music shows (meaning, where you have to buy a ticket in advance to get in). I simply can\u2019t wrap my head around people who knowingly pay for a ticket to a music show, and then not only proceed to ignore every<\/strong> act (presumably including their reason for buying the ticket) but knowingly disturb everyone else\u2019s ability to enjoy the show. I say \u201cknowingly\u201d, because even when they are forcefully shushed<\/strong>, they give a dirty look and continue to talk as loud as they can.<\/p>\n Why don\u2019t those people who want to drink and socialize go to a bar\/club\/disco? I have a good friend who is a full-time musician. When I rant to him about this, he says: \u201cAny musician who can\u2019t deal with a rude audience better quit today. It\u2019s simply a part of the job.\u201d In other words, he\u2019s excusing it (in my mind). Of course, he\u2019s not, he\u2019s accepting<\/em> it. I wish we didn\u2019t have to settle for that kind of behavior as the norm<\/em>.<\/p>\n I\u2019m going to stop now, or I\u2019ll miss the show we are attending tonight. Hopefully, I\u2019ll be back to my normal blog style tomorrow, having loved tonight\u2019s show. Introduction and Caveats My strong instinct was\/is not to write this post. I often regret overruling my gut and I suspect this time won\u2019t be different. This is a 100% opinion piece (obviously, every post is just my opinion, but this doesn\u2019t even contain the normal factual parts like posting a set list, etc.). 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