{"id":11095,"date":"2012-03-02T13:19:39","date_gmt":"2012-03-02T17:19:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opticality.com\/blog\/?p=11095"},"modified":"2012-03-02T13:20:54","modified_gmt":"2012-03-02T17:20:54","slug":"the-milk-carton-kids-at-joes-pub","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/opticality.com\/blog\/2012\/03\/02\/the-milk-carton-kids-at-joes-pub\/","title":{"rendered":"The Milk Carton Kids at Joe’s Pub"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Milk Carton Kids<\/a> (MCK) headlined Joe\u2019s Pub<\/a> last night. We bought tickets ages ago. We caught their first ever NYC show (after they officially formed MCK) almost five month ago. Sadly, we missed two NYC shows between then and last night.<\/p>\n

\"TheMilkCartonKids\"<\/a><\/p>\n

My post about that NYC debut show went into great detail describing the group, each of their individual styles, how we came to know them, what their business model is, etc. Rather than repeat all that, if you have interest in knowing more about them (and how great I think they are), please read that post<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ll add a few thoughts about last night\u2019s show.<\/p>\n

We love Joe\u2019s Pub, in particular since the internal renovation (the exterior still has a ton of work left and the kitchen reno hasn\u2019t even begun). The sound system was perfect (it usually is), so there was no distraction or straining to enjoy MCK.<\/p>\n

Joey and Kenneth are always funny, with Joey typically doing much more of the talking. Last night, Kenneth piped up more often. It was an edgier, biting humor (I\u2019m being polite) that won\u2019t be everyone\u2019s cup of tea. Joey\u2019s responses\/reactions to it were priceless<\/strong>, so in the end I was fine with it too. It will be interesting to see whether this was planned\/calculated and will be repeated, or whether it was extemporaneous and fleeting (I\u2019m hoping for the latter, even though I laughed).<\/p>\n

\"JoeyRyan\"<\/a>\"KennethPattengale2\"<\/a><\/p>\n

They were truly amazing last night (not a single complaint). That said, I believe the Rockwood show in October 2011 was technically better.<\/p>\n

\"KennethPattengale\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Joey and Kenneth are very good friends with another top guitar player, NYC-based Adam Levy<\/a>. In addition to giving guitar lessons, Adam tweets guitar tips on a regular basis. I doubt they changed their styles as a result of anything Adam tweeted publicly, but I was struck by the fact that they are the perfect poster boys for Adam\u2019s advice. Specifically:<\/p>\n

Don’t watch your hands.Nothing to see there.Look around-at audience, fellow musicians, the scenery.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

As incredible as both are on the guitar (completely different styles), neither ever looks at their hands\/guitar while they\u2019re singing. They rarely look down when they\u2019re just playing either.<\/p>\n

I can\u2019t find the set of tweets that covered this next tip<\/em>, so I\u2019ll paraphrase and butcher it, sorry:<\/p>\n

If you play acoustic guitar, unless there\u2019s a really good reason to (which there rarely is), don\u2019t use pickups and an amplifier, use a microphone to amplify your guitar. It makes everything simpler, less things to travel with and less things that can go wrong.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

MCK do exactly that. Four microphones on stage, two for their voices, two for their guitars. They can travel lightly (which in this business, means simplicity and money-savings). When Kenneth wants to tune his guitar, he steps a few feet back from the mic. He doesn\u2019t need to dork with pedal boards, electronic tuners, signaling the sound guy that he\u2019s about to unplug, etc.<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re interested in more of Adam\u2019s tips\/lessons, look here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Here is the set list from last night:<\/p>\n

\"SetList\"<\/a><\/p>\n

MCK had an opener. It\u2019s extremely rare for most of the clubs that we frequent to make any announcements (headliners or openers). At some point, one or more people are on stage, milling about. You hear a bunch of \u201ccheck, check\u201d, some tuning, but mostly, you hear the crowd carrying on, ignoring what\u2019s happening on stage. Then the lights get a bit dimmer, and the person or group on stage either starts playing, or perhaps they say hello and introduce themselves.<\/p>\n

In an even rarer event than the venue making an announcement, Joey Ryan<\/a> (1\/2 of the MCK) came out and gave a moving introduction of the opener. We know from past experience that Joey is a class act in every respect, so this wasn\u2019t a surprise in terms of his behavior, but it was a surprise to have anyone<\/strong> mention the name of the opener before they hit the stage.<\/p>\n

Trevor Menear<\/a> is a solo singer\/songwriter, accompanying himself on the acoustic guitar. I\u2019m typically a big fan of this kind of music (having come of age to Bob Dylan) and I can see Trevor\u2019s appeal in that regard. As good a job as he did, for whatever reason, I wasn\u2019t particularly drawn to his songs.<\/p>\n

\"TrevorMenear\"<\/a><\/p>\n

His guitar play was quite good when he wasn\u2019t singing (during the bridges, or intro\/closing), but was less polished (for the most part) while he was singing. That said, later in the set he switched to finger-picking on a couple of songs, and I shifted in my seat to pay more attention. He has skills.<\/p>\n

I enjoyed his set, but I wouldn\u2019t normally run out to see him again. Given how much Joey promoted him (at the end of the MCK set as well), he\u2019s worth another listen (or two, or three), to see what I might be missing. Trevor is currently touring with MCK, so if\u00a0 you\u2019re about to see them, you\u2019ll see him, and can form your own opinion.<\/p>\n

After the set we got to say a quick hi to Joey. Lois snapped this photo of Joey with two of our other favorite musicians:<\/p>\n

\"IanAxelJoeyRyanChadVaccarino\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Then we bumped into Philip Ettinger<\/a>. I\u2019ve written about Phil<\/a> once before and mentioned him in another post<\/a>. Phil is an actor that you all better keep an eye on, he\u2019s going places, mark my words. Of course, we forced him to pose for this shot:<\/p>\n

\"PhilEttingerChadVaccarinoLinaIanAxel\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Lois forced me to pose for one as well:<\/p>\n

\"ChadVaccarinoHadar\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Another fun evening out seeing great music. Back for more music starting Sunday at 5pm (Zach Jones<\/a> at Rockwood 1), then Rebecca Haviland<\/a> on Monday night at Rockwood 2 (7:30pm).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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